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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:47 pm 
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Mixed feelings on this. On one hand, I hope they're using as much payload as they can for things which might actually be useful. If they're going to Mars, I'm sure there are loads of people who'd be happy to throw something together. On the other hand, there's probably a limit to how much useful stuff you can do on a rocket that has a good chance of blowing up. And in that case, why not do something silly?


Well considering that SpaceX was founded because Musk felt the Russians were charging to much for a couple of ICBM's to launch a greenhouse to Mars......

In all seriousness it is more interesting than just launching a mass simulator. The first Dragon capsule payload was a giant wheel of cheese.


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And when it comes to public perception, that's more than half the battle (and one reason Apollo got truncated, nobody cared anymore). Launching a wheel of cheese or the boss' car is quirky, gets attention, and starts people talking; launching a mass-and-volume sphere of lead does not.

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My problem was not with doing something silly and interesting, it was the opportunity cost of not doing something productive with the mass instead. On second thought, though, 'fly experiments as your mass simulator' is going to be a lot more trouble than it's worth. I withdraw my partial criticism.

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My problem was not with doing something silly and interesting, it was the opportunity cost of not doing something productive with the mass instead. On second thought, though, 'fly experiments as your mass simulator' is going to be a lot more trouble than it's worth. I withdraw my partial criticism.


I think at some-point the decision was made that with all the delays with the FH that they wanted to go with a payload from SpaceX and not involve any outside parties. Keep everything in-house, they just need to get the rocket off the pad at this point. The first D-IVH launch failed to make its intended orbit. The FH is what going on three years late at this point?


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Sooo, what does everyone think of this?
The battle for Mars has begun? :D

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Fuel depots and orbit sweepers. If there was a brain, NASA would give a bounty for either. Not enough to pay for it necessarily, but to take some sting out. Theu wpul d benefit SpaceX too.

Very useful payloads, which we will need lots of eventually, and as test payloads standardized designs would be pretty cheap.


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Another one up, another booster down.

And one more scheduled for the year.

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Fuel depots and orbit sweepers. If there was a brain, NASA would give a bounty for either. Not enough to pay for it necessarily, but to take some sting out. Theu wpul d benefit SpaceX too.

Very useful payloads, which we will need lots of eventually, and as test payloads standardized designs would be pretty cheap.


I agree 100% of fuel depots. There has been internal studies within NASA showing that fuel depots would be a cheaper route than developing a SHLV (SLS rocket). However these were suppressed in favor of the big rocket solution.

Going BEO, over 50% of your mass is fuel. It is basically a propellant moving exercise. Fuel depots would give a lot of flexibility and allow more partners to participate etc. However instead we get a monster rocket.


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Falcon Heavy Getting Closer

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Looks like the FH payload is ready to go.

Elon has placed the "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" in the glove Box.

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Am I the only one amused by last night’s SpaceX launch causing half of LA and indeed the western US to panic over aliens and North Korean nukes? :D
It was pretty spectacular though.

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[quote="Micael"]Am I the only one amused by last night’s SpaceX launch causing half of LA and indeed the western US to panic over aliens and North Korean nukes? :D
It was pretty spectacular though.

Well Micael it is LA, like San Francisco and Seatle, nothing outrageous or really really dumb they do surprises me.
Now if something factual and that actually made sense panicked that lot of brain dead fools I would be very, very surprised.

Just another case of "What would you expect from a PIG but a GRUNT?"

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Am I the only one amused by last night’s SpaceX launch causing half of LA and indeed the western US to panic over aliens and North Korean nukes? :D
It was pretty spectacular though.

Well Micael it is LA, like San Francisco and Seatle, nothing outrageous or really really dumb they do surprises me.
Now if something factual and that actually made sense panicked that lot of brain dead fools I would be very, very surprised.

Just another case of "What would you expect from a PIG but a GRUNT?"


Plenty of people in the LA basin new exactly what it was. Even my local Neighborhood Watch facebook group we have a couple of postings by people asking what this was and they were quickly informed it was a Falcon-9 from Vandenberg.

Of course I have to point out that the Falcon 9 was designed and built in LA. :D

Of course the usual pot stirring by Musk.

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Hang on, he may be right. Thank about it logically and Kim Jong-In being a space alien would make a lot of sense.

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Hang on, he may be right. Thank about it logically and Kim Jong-In being a space alien would make a lot of sense.

What if he’s the only human leader left as the rest of the worldwide political leadership have secretly been replaced by aliens, and the aliens are framing him to get rid of him? :D
*Plays Twilight Zone theme*

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Micael wrote:
Francis Urquhart wrote:
Hang on, he may be right. Thank about it logically and Kim Jong-In being a space alien would make a lot of sense.

What if he’s the only human leader left as the rest of the worldwide political leadership have secretly been replaced by aliens, and the aliens are framing him to get rid of him? :D
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Navy: "Hold muh beer and I'll draw a dick in the sky!"

Elon Musk and USAF: "We see your dick in the sky and raise you a giant space sperm."

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Francis Urquhart wrote:
Hang on, he may be right. Thank about it logically and Kim Jong-In being a space alien would make a lot of sense.


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Any we have gone vertial for a fit check.

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If "if it looks right, it flies right" holds true, that bird will fly like a dream.

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