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 Post subject: 12 O'Clock High
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:21 pm 
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Today my class watched a scene from this movie, where Brig General Savage (played by Gregory Peck) takes over as commander. In it, he berates the gate guard for just waving him through (because he was in a staff car), demotes a sergeant to private (who was typing a report without his uniform blouse on) and demotes the cowardly XO to flight commander whose crew will be every misfit in the unit.

I found it interesting of the twelve of us in the class, I was the only one who thought everything he did was appropriate and correct. I could tell they were all looking at it from a 2017 perspective, not from a 1943 "the unit is in shambles and needs a kick in the ass to kill nazis" point of view. I just wish I could have been able to show some real life examples of things like this happening, but I couldn't find anything before the end of the discussion.


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The average ELOI Snowflake today, would be curled into a ball SOBBING just from watching the movie, god help them if they actually had to go through a REAL war.


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S. Murray wrote:
Today my class watched a scene from this movie, where Brig General Savage (played by Gregory Peck) takes over as commander. In it, he berates the gate guard for just waving him through (because he was in a staff car), demotes a sergeant to private (who was typing a report without his uniform blouse on) and demotes the cowardly XO to flight commander whose crew will be every misfit in the unit.

I found it interesting of the twelve of us in the class, I was the only one who thought everything he did was appropriate and correct. I could tell they were all looking at it from a 2017 perspective, not from a 1943 "the unit is in shambles and needs a kick in the ass to kill nazis" point of view. I just wish I could have been able to show some real life examples of things like this happening, but I couldn't find anything before the end of the discussion.



I do not in the slightest exaggerate when I say that had you run that scene in front of a SAC NCO Academy class, the response would have been complete understanding.

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MikeKozlowski wrote:
S. Murray wrote:
Today my class watched a scene from this movie, where Brig General Savage (played by Gregory Peck) takes over as commander. In it, he berates the gate guard for just waving him through (because he was in a staff car), demotes a sergeant to private (who was typing a report without his uniform blouse on) and demotes the cowardly XO to flight commander whose crew will be every misfit in the unit.

I found it interesting of the twelve of us in the class, I was the only one who thought everything he did was appropriate and correct. I could tell they were all looking at it from a 2017 perspective, not from a 1943 "the unit is in shambles and needs a kick in the ass to kill nazis" point of view. I just wish I could have been able to show some real life examples of things like this happening, but I couldn't find anything before the end of the discussion.



I do not in the slightest exaggerate when I say that had you run that scene in front of a SAC NCO Academy class, the response would have been complete understanding.

Mike



I believe it.

So, I had never seen the movie, so I watched it this afternoon. I still stand by my original view that General Savage handled the take over of the 918th correctly. I was surprised that he actually survived--I fully expected him to die in the final mission. But having the mental break was more effective, I think. An excellent film all together.


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I have long thought that we need our own Somme (while desperately not wanting one) to burn out the Turtle Fat.

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