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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:54 pm 
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I'll admit it, other than watching the pilot, I wasn't going to pay money to watch the series. Now I'm wondering if I should even watch the pilot.

You'd think with box office and ratings down, studios and actors would keep their mouths shut to avoid alienating half of their potential audience

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Proving once again that Hollywood never runs out of stupid ideas, a Star Trek remake has modeled its Klingon villains after Trump supporters.

An executive producer for the CBS All-Access drama “Star Trek: Discovery” claims patriotic Trump supporters inspired their version of the evil Klingons.

“The Klingons are going to help us really look at certain sides of ourselves and our country,” moonbat Aaron Harberts told Entertainment Weekly. “Isolationism is a big theme. Racial purity is a big theme.

Herberts added: “It raises big questions: Should we let people in? Do we want to change? … It’s been interesting to see how the times have become more of a mirror than we even thought they were going to be.”



Aaron Herberts mistakenly thinks virtue-signaling will win viewers. (Image: Twitter)

“Star Trek: Discovery” is set 10 years before the original 1966 TV series, which starred William Shatner and the late Leonard Nimoy.

At the time, the show reflected the Cold War tensions between the United States (represented by the Federation) and the former Soviet Union (the “Klingons”).

“Star Trek: Discovery” will be released September 24 on CBS All-Access, a subscription video-on-demand service.

We can already tell it’s going to be a bomb. How? Because what new TV show starts off alienating 63 million people right off the bat? That’s just stupid marketing.

Moreover, here’s a sampling of online comments from prospective non-fans:


Yea, cause I watch Star Trek to be lectured about left-wing politics.
This has been doomed from the start.
A majority of Star Trek series audiences have been men. A majority of men voted for Trump. 80% of employed men (you know, people who can buy products advertised on TV) voted for Trump.
Communists don’t care about buying products because they think it all comes from the guvment.
Gollywood just keeps cutting their own leftist throats, and they are wondering why their audience is shrinking and they are losing $$$!
If us ” Trump voters” are Klingons, then the other voters must be the Tribbles ! The Tribbles served no purpose other than to eat all of the ships food and are very much like modern socialists.
Gene Roddenberry was someone who sought solutions to racial and religious differences. He didn’t exploit it. He would be appalled.

When goaded to trash President Trump, William Shatner (the original — and best — Captain Kirk) told the Daily Beast: “I’m Canadian and I’m apolitical. I love America. I consider myself a guest here.”




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Oh for *insert appropriate expletive here*'s sake.

Okay, I now consider Star Trek officially dead. Except, that is, the old shows and movies.

sensually caress you CBS.

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Make Qo'nos Great Again! Qa'pla!

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An executive producer for the CBS All-Access drama “Star Trek: Discovery” claims patriotic Trump supporters inspired their version of the evil Klingons.

“The Klingons are going to help us really look at certain sides of ourselves and our country,” moonbat Aaron Harberts told Entertainment Weekly. “Isolationism is a big theme. Racial purity is a big theme.

It sounds as if their idea of Trump supporters is so far from being accurate that few of them will be able to see themselves in the Klingons.

As for the producers politics, I always start with the assumption that everyone in the entertainment industry is probably despicable and/or idiotic in some way or another and try to judge them on their product. I'm usually not disappointed but am sometimes pleasantly surprised to find an entertainer who isn't a complete waste of oxygen in person.


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Well we've always known the Klingons were the good guys anyway, right? :twisted:

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If you remember the old War of Worlds TV series back on the late 80s, half the episodes of the second season, I was rooting for the aliens.

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“The Klingons are going to help us really look at certain sides of ourselves and our country,” moonbat Aaron Harberts told Entertainment Weekly. “Isolationism is a big theme. Racial purity is a big theme.


....Yeeeeeeeeeeah, isolationists want to conquer and control other races and parts of the galaxy. You know how I know he's never SEEN a TOS episode?

And BTW, are we sure that's 'Harberts' and not 'Herberts'? From the nice people at Memory Alpha:

"...The term "Herbert" was an uncomplimentary slang term used by the acolytes of Dr. Sevrin. The basis for the term was a minor official named Herbert, notorious for his rigid and limited patterns of thought..."

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“The Klingons are going to help us really look at certain sides of ourselves and our country,” moonbat Aaron Harberts told Entertainment Weekly. “Isolationism is a big theme. Racial purity is a big theme.


....Yeeeeeeeeeeah, isolationists want to conquer and control other races and parts of the galaxy. You know how I know he's never SEEN a TOS episode?

And BTW, are we sure that's 'Harberts' and not 'Herberts'? From the nice people at Memory Alpha:

"...The term "Herbert" was an uncomplimentary slang term used by the acolytes of Dr. Sevrin. The basis for the term was a minor official named Herbert, notorious for his rigid and limited patterns of thought..."

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Sounds like 95% of Hollywood. Given the disaster that was this year's movie box office, I'm wondering why any producer is going out of their way to insult half their audience.

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It seems that CBS is embargoing the reviews of the first two episodes of ST:D until after they air.

ST:D? Oh dear....


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It seems that CBS is embargoing the reviews of the first two episodes of ST:D until after they air.

ST:D? Oh dear....


Being the Sniveling little Pustules they have always been with this Liefest, well, why NOT?
Just A WAG? But I'll bet you money the in-house and secret showings already are giving them really frapping bad news....


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Sounds like 95% of Hollywood. Given the disaster that was this year's movie box office, I'm wondering why any producer is going out of their way to insult half their audience.


Because, they are morons and ass-kissers with utterly no skills fitting their jobs?
Eg - they just replaced the director of SW Ep IX -- by whom? Why, JJ Lensflare!.... SW is doomed as a saga. To quote someone, Watch this...
AND, they had to throw the two douchebags doing the Han Solo movie off the train. Why? My goodness, their idea for the NUANCED peoples was to do THAT as a comedy! Just what every Solo fan curious about his backstory wants!!

None of these assclowns, are qualified to do a Kids PUPPET show. With SOCKS


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TBH Star Wars was screwed after Empire Strikes Back the way Lucas was taking things. All that's changed now is he' out of the picture and others are able to drive it into the ground.

If you wanna know more check out SF Debris series, Shadow's Journey. http://sfdebris.com/videos/special/shadowsjourney.php

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...I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that CBS is intentionally trying to kill their side of the ST franchise - it's split between CBS for TV and Paramount, which does movies.

They have repeatedly lied about what the show was going to be like - as opposed to artful misdirection to build interest, see also 'John Harrison' - they have made it clear that the show will be a politically correct screed that will tell us how bad Certain Political Viewpoints are, it's being broadcast on a platform that you have to pay above and beyond for, and (perhaps worst of all) they have blown canon to hell and gone just to prove they can. They couldn't possibly WANT to do real Trek - they have to be looking at it as a hindrance to more 'relevant' programming, and there has to be an attitude that they would be better off without having to worry about it. I can only assume that CBS wants to be in a position for the foreseeable future where they can say, "Look - we tried Trek, and it didn't work. Wudn't our fault, now siddown and watch 'NCISFBIKGBCIAGRUOSI: Upper West St Louis...."

I had such high hopes, especially after seeing the McQuarriePrise in that first teaser trailer.

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Well we've always known the Klingons were the good guys anyway, right? :twisted:


F... the good guys! Credible villains are what a tv show/movie needs. And yes, I'm looking at you Stargate movie! :geek:

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Well we've always known the Klingons were the good guys anyway, right? :twisted:


F... the good guys! Credible villains are what a tv show/movie needs. And yes, I'm looking at you Stargate movie! :geek:

Well to be honest TNG started out with giant space jellyfish and Ferengi bad guys but then it improved. You never know.

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The über-capitalist Ferengi might not have been evil but they were certainly fun. Very refreshing un-PC fun.

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The funny thing there is that as I understand it the Ferengi, originally, were essentially intended to fill the role the Cardassians wound up filling, the 'the next Klingons' antagonist role, as opposed to being the Comic Relief Ultra Plutocrats.

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The Borg filled in the Klingons after the Ferengi failed. The Cardassians were more a side step seeking to make another antagonist but not one at least equal to the Federation. So much of what we saw involving the Cardassians in TNG was the Fed going out of its way to avoid a war they could win, but still wasn't worth the cost that led them into barely avoiding outright appeasement.

IMO< on its own it was terrible, but given that it receded DS9 and the Dominion War, I find it an awesome middle finger to the spirit in the Federation best represented by Picard that was dangerously naive and weak minded, something with continued to remain relevant.

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jemhouston wrote:
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“The Klingons are going to help us really look at certain sides of ourselves and our country,” moonbat Aaron Harberts told Entertainment Weekly. “Isolationism is a big theme. Racial purity is a big theme.


....Yeeeeeeeeeeah, isolationists want to conquer and control other races and parts of the galaxy. You know how I know he's never SEEN a TOS episode?

And BTW, are we sure that's 'Harberts' and not 'Herberts'? From the nice people at Memory Alpha:

"...The term "Herbert" was an uncomplimentary slang term used by the acolytes of Dr. Sevrin. The basis for the term was a minor official named Herbert, notorious for his rigid and limited patterns of thought..."

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Sounds like 95% of Hollywood. Given the disaster that was this year's movie box office, I'm wondering why any producer is going out of their way to insult half their audience.

The show's creators literally cannot comprehend or believe that any part of their audience would be insulted by this. Not only are they themselves not Trump supporters, they most likely don't even know anyone who is. Not a single one. That's also why their idea of what "Trump supporters" are like is such a ludicrous caricature (see: "racial purity"). Hand in hand with this: Proggies in general are really bad at drawing a distinction between art and artist, so that they cannot even imagine enjoying a work created by someone whose values differ from their own in even the smallest degree. They then assume everyone else is psychologically crippled in the same way that they are.

Further, (in their minds, at least) Star Trek has always been basically about Progressivism, dontcha know? So why would Trump's irredeemably deplorable masses ever want to watch a show like that anyway? Obviously they wouldn't!

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The Borg filled in the Klingons after the Ferengi failed. The Cardassians were more a side step seeking to make another antagonist but not one at least equal to the Federation. So much of what we saw involving the Cardassians in TNG was the Fed going out of its way to avoid a war they could win, but still wasn't worth the cost that led them into barely avoiding outright appeasement.

IMO< on its own it was terrible, but given that it receded DS9 and the Dominion War, I find it an awesome middle finger to the spirit in the Federation best represented by Picard that was dangerously naive and weak minded, something with continued to remain relevant.

Yeah it was with the arrival of the Borg that TNG got a proper enemy. I never cared much for the Cardassians, I always felt that a real scifi enemy should pose a terrifying existential threat which I don't think they did.
The Borg and Species 8472 are up there though.

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