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BZ! This was a great update. It brings up a lot of new plot points.

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The quality of the story is consistently high.

When the girls' Vark was damaged, I half expected it to crash behind friendly lines and Daria and Jane being rescued by a pair of extremely dumb 11Bs whose nametags read "Head" and "Beavis" ;)

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Just wanted to let everyone know, Night Witches is far from dead. I am working on Chapter 13 as we speak. I am in the midst of plugging a paying gig I am doing these days (my own game company, strictly small press, mind you).

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Chapter 13 is about 1000 words in and things are good so far...or so we think? Lots more story to tell, and tableau to tell it against. No teaser as of yet. But soon my minions...soon. :lol:

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Knowing them...they are all in SAC...

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They do have / had their own missile

http://aviationintel.com/lockheeds-mini ... e-missile/

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Hello all,
I know it has been a while and I have been bad about updates. For that, mea culpa. It's been a busy time on the writing front, as I have three blogs to maintain, a Battletech AU to finish, a wargaming supplement on West Berlin in an alternate 1985 to get done, another on Budapest 1945 to get some forward progress on, and a set of Russian Civil War rules to do a rough draft on.

So yeah, I have a lot on my plate.

But I did not forget you, my loyal readers..so here's the PDB from Chapter 13, as written by Matt Wiser:

White House Situation Room
Washington, DC
0900 Eastern Daylight Time
10 August, 1985:


President Reagan walked into the Situation Room for the morning military briefing. So far, NATO was holding, just, though there were a few bright spots, along with a few bad ones as well. He had been shaken by a Soviet attack in space. The Space Shuttle Challenger had been launched just prior to the war, on a contingency mission to loft a KH-12 reconnaissance satellite, one that the National Reconnaissance Office had felt they absolutely needed. There had been arguments in NASA both pro and con, but the NASA Administrator had ultimately given the go-ahead for the launch. The shuttle had deployed the satellite as planned, but the Soviets had taken action themselves, launching a Soyuz to intercept the shuttle.

The Soyuz had attacked the shuttle with what ordnance experts called a giant shotgun, spraying the shuttle with golf-ball sized submunitions. The shuttle had been crippled, but the crew had managed to attempt a landing at Edwards AFB the previous day. Challenger wound up crashing on touchdown, her left main landing gear and nose gear collapsing, and the left wing crumpling. Damage to the crew cabin had been extensive, with two of the three astronauts in the mid-deck killed, and a third in critical condition after being evacuated to UCLA Medical Center. The four crew on the flight deck had made it with minor injuries, and they were hopping mad, to say the least. Not just at the Soviets, but the NASA Administrator, who had authorized the mission. The President had called them, then spoken to the families, and promised that the Soviets would be made to pay. As for the NASA Administrator? He had offered his resignation, effective upon the termination of hostilities, though he also asked that the structural spares at the Rockwell International Plant in California be used to build a replacement vehicle. The President had granted both requests. Now, the subject of retaliation would come up, along with a host of other topics.

The President came into the room, and his War Cabinet, for want of a better term, stood as he did so.

“Good Morning, Mr. President,” Don Regan, his Chief of Staff, said.

“Morning, everyone,” The President replied. “I take it you've seen the pictures on the front page of the Post,” Reagan said, referring to the crash of the shuttle, which was on Page One. “Before we get with the briefing, I want options on retaliation. This cannot stand.”

“Mr. President,” House Speaker Tip O'Neil said, “I know some in my party were hopeful that space would remain demilitarized, but the attack on the shuttle has put paid to that notion. I agree: there must be a price paid by the Soviets for this.” And O'Neil saw Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole nod in agreement.

“And there will be,” the President promised. “Mr. Secretary?” He gestured to Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger.

“Mr. President, CINC-NORAD has something that can happen almost immediately, while CINC-SAC has a mission that can take about a day,” Weinberger said.

The President nodded. “All right, what does CINC-NORAD recommend?”

“We take down the Soyuz that did this, with the Air Force's ASAT missile.”

“The one launched from an F-15?” Senator Mitchell asked. “I thought it was experimental.”

“It is,” General John Vessey, the JCS Chairman, said. “It works.”

“And it has,” the President reminded everyone. “How fast can we do this?”

General Vessey said, “There's a pilot sitting alert at Langley AFB right now, and she's ready. The aircraft is armed and ready. An engagement window opens in ninety minutes. All we need is yourauthorization, Mr. President.”

The President was inclined to agree, but wanted a consensus. Now, war would spread to the heavens, with science fiction becoming science fact. The Soviets had opened the Pandora's Box, but still....”George?” He asked VP George Bush, who was at Camp David, and participating via secured video hookup.

“Take it out,” Bush advised.

“Secretary Weinberger?”

“I agree, Mr. President,” SECDEF replied.

“Secretary Schultz?” POTUS asked his Secretary of State.

“Yes, Mr. President. Do it.” Schultz said.

Then the President turned to his National Securty Advisor, Admiral John Poindexter. “Admiral?”

“I concur, Mr. President,” the Admiral replied.

The President turned to the House and Senate leaders. They briefly whispered to each other, then Speaker O'Neil spoke for all. “Mr. President, you need to do what you have to do. We'll take care of those on the Hill who were against this system.”

“Thank you, Mr. Speaker,” POTUS said. He turned to General John Vessey, the JCS Chairman. “General? Do it.”

Vessy said, “Yes, Mr. President,” then he picked up a phone and spoke for a minute. “Mission will launch on time, sir.”

“Very good. Now, what does CINC-SAC propose?”

Weinberger spoke up. “We use B-52s out of Diego Garcia to attack Baikanour Cosmodrome with air-launched cruise missiles. Boeing has developed a conventional version of the missile, with a high-explosive warhead replacing the nuclear one. It cuts down the range by about a third, but it's still a thousand miles. Even if we mounted the strike from bases in the U.S., a mission over the Pole brings out all sorts of nasty connotations.”

“They may think it's a nuclear strike,” Senator Dole said.

“Precisely, Senator. So we launch out of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean and fly over, of all places.
Iran.”

“Iran?” The President asked. “Are you serious?”

“Yes,sir. We time this so that it's at night, and we know the Iranian Air Defense System. We built it, after all, and know the gaps. We also have some back-channel contacts with the Iranian military, and inform them that three B-52s will be flying over their territory en route to the Soviet Union. A hundred miles from the border, they launch at a point still off Soviet radar, and return to base. If the Iranians want, they can scramble fighters to follow the B-52s, but if not, they can say they saw nothing.”

Admiral Poindexter asked, “And targets?”

CIA Director Bill Casey stood up. “I believe I can answer that, Mr. President.” He nodded to an aide, and a satellite photo of Baikanour went on the viewscreen in the Sit Room. “Here's an overview, and the next image-” he waited until the next photo came up-”shows the targets. Their launch control center, vehicle assembly and checkout for Soyuz, the pad for Soyuz launches, vehicle assembly and checkout for their own ASAT missiles, the pad used for those launches, and last, their propulsion storage facilities.” Casey turned to face POTUS. “We knock these out, and not only do we send a message, but also take out their own ASAT capabilities.”

“Very well, Director,” Reagan said. “When does CINC-SAC want to carry out the mission?”

“As soon as possible, Mr. President,” Secretary Weinberger replied. “We need your approval.”

“Approval is given,” Reagan said at once. “Do it.”

General Vessey picked up his phone and relayed the order. “Omaha's been informed, Mr. President,” he
said after.

“Good. Now, let's get an overview of the general situation,” the President said.

“Yes, Mr. President,” Secretary Weinberger said. He nodded to an AF two-star, the deputy Ops Director
for the JCS.

“Starting in the North, Mr. President,” the AF general began. “The Soviets are still bogged down in Fortress Norway, though they came very close to outflanking it. They failed, and are still slogging their way through. DIA assesses that they are at least seventy-two hours behind schedule, if not more. The Soviet beachhead at Bodo has been contained, but not eliminated. The Soviet Marines and some Army, who are largely survivors of the reinforcement convoy, have dug in, and it's street fighting, house-to-house and room-to-room.

“Their flanking move came via Finland, and the Swedes aren't happy about that. They have moved forces to the Finnish border, but have not moved yet. As for the Swedes, there's daily anti-Soviet protests, especially after a Soviet air strike meant for Copenhagen hit the port of Malmo instead. It's got both sides pretty pissed, the Swedes shot down some Fitters on the way back from Malmo, and word is, the Viggen squadron that intercepted the strike chased them almost back to base, against orders. The Soviets then responded with shelling a small Swedish outpost on the border for 20 minutes yesterday, 12 dead, 18 wounded from that. It's getting tense there, sir.”

“I can add to that, Mr. President,” Secretary Schultz said. “Our Ambassador in Stockholm reports that Prime Minister Palme is under heavy pressure, and not just from the opposition, but from his own party, to assist NATO and defend Swedish sovereignty. A no-confidence vote in their Parliament is set for today, and may even be underway now. He's been accused of having secret sympathies for the Soviets, and his refusal to take action after Malmo only reinforced those feelings. The Swedish Foreign Minister has told our ambassador that Palme's finished.”

“Good,” POTUS said. “Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Continue.”

“Yes, Mr. President. In Denmark, the Soviets control Zealand and half of Jutland, but their Baltic Front is stalled. They have 9th Guards and 11th Guards Armies, but they're not getting their full allotment of supplies. It's highly likely that a lot of what they're expecting has been diverted to 1st Western Front.

“Now, sir, in Northern Germany, the battle line is basically the Weser River. Bremen and Hannover have been lost, and there was an attempt to encircle I German Corps, but NORTHAG saw through it. The line is I Netherlands Corps, II British Corps, I German Corps, I British Corps, then I Belgian Corps. III Corps is in reserve, it did have some elements backing up the Dutch. However, a Panzer Division was released from I German Corps last night. along with West German territorials and they are now backing up the Dutch, and III Corps is now in SACEUR reserve. The enemy formations comprising 1st Western Front from north to south are the East German 5th Army, then 2nd Guards Tank Army, 3rd Shock Army, then 20th Guards Army. DIA is assessing them as being at least three to five days behind schedule.”

“CIA concurs with that assessment, Mr. President,” Director Casey added.

The briefer went on. “In CENTAG, it's III German Corps west of Kassel, in line with the Belgians on their northern flank-with V Corps and VII Corps holding along from Alfeld in the north past Wurzburg to Ansbach in the south. The Second Western Front is their opposition, with the following formations from north to south; 8th Guards Army, East German 3rd Army, and 28th Army, with 1st Guards Tank Army in Front Reserve. In SOUTHAG, with I and II French Corps and II German Corps, they're holding from Ansbach due south to the Munich area, then the Alps. Central Front is their opposition, with 10th and 41st Armies from north to south, and the 8th Guards Tank Army in reserve.”

“The two line Armies are mostly Czech, I should remind everyone,” SECDEF said. “They're not that willing to fight us or the French, but more than willing to fight West Germans.”

“Noted, Mr. Secretary,” the President nodded. “Go on, please.”

“Yes, Mr. President.” The briefer continued. “In Austria, the Austrians are holding Salzburg and Linz, and the Italians have moved their IV Alpine Corps into the Alps. The passes are either under Allied control or have been blocked. The Soviets are in firm control of the Danube Valley, and the Hungarians who moved into Graz have not moved. In Vienna, the Austrians and French are still holding, the Soviets having decided to bypass the city. As for Slovenia, Italian V Corps has bolstered the Marines and Airborne around Ljubljana and Rijeka, and their position is secure. The Croats and Slovenes are still resisting the Soviets, and the Croats believe that they can hold Dubrovnik. In Bosnia, the Soviets took Sarajevo, with the local Serbs acting as very cooperative auxiliaries. The Bosnian Muslims,though, they're fighting with what they have, and are hollering for help.”

“But no one's in a position to give any,” SECSTATE noted.

“That is a fair assessment, Mr. Secretary,” the Two-star said. “Moving on, the Greeks and Turks are holding in Thrace, while the Soviet airborne and amphibious forces on the Black Sea Coast east of Istanbul have been mopped up. Sixth Fleet is providing carrier air support, after neutralizing the Soviet bases at Latikia and Tartus in Syria.”

“Very well,” POTUS said. “Far East??”

“Sir, the North Koreans have made some gains along the East Coast, and are in some of the outskirts of Seoul. However, they're trying more to outflank Seoul and surround it. They tried an assault crossing of the Han River in division strength in two locations, and failed. Both our forces-that's 2 nd ID and elements of 3rd Marine Division, plus a brigade from 25th ID, and the ROKs. 8th Army is confident they can hold the line at present.”

“All right: naval situation?”

The AF briefer turned things over to a Navy Rear Admiral. “Mr. President, starting in the Far East, Seventh Fleet has launched a three-carrier raid against Kamchatka, with Midway, Ranger, and Carl Vinson. The support facilities for their SSBNs were not attacked, but the POL storage, repair shops, and conventional munitions storage were. Along with the airfield, which supports both Naval Aviation and Voyska PVO. The carriers have dodged one Backfire attack, killing the Bear-D reconnaissance birds that act as pathfinders for the Backfires, and the attack was forced to abort. Those carriers are now moving to attack the Kuriles. Kitty Hawk is now off Korea, and has been joined by Constellation, now that the Soviet base at Cam Ranh Bay has been neutralized, and the Soviet carrier Minsk and two of her escorts sunk. Three other escorts went on a rampage in the South China Sea and near Singapore, sinking over a dozen ships, all merchant vessels, before they turned themselves in at Singapore and interned themselves.

“Going on, sir, in the IO, Enterprise has, with assistance from the Middle East Force and the British Armilla Patrol, has destroyed the Soviet IO Squadron, and put the bases at Aden and Socotra Island out of commission. In the Med, Sixth Fleet, acting with the French and Italians, has neutralized the Soviet Med Squadron, as mentioned. They are now supporting the land campaign in Turkey. However, Coral Sea was damaged by a submarine attack. She managed to limp into Gibraltar, and offload her air wing. They've joined the NATO tactical air reserve.

“In the North, Strike Fleet Atlantic is supporting the land campaign in Norway. They've also helped with the fight against Soviet light forces along the Norwegian Coast. Contrary to expectations, they have not yet faced a Backfire and Badger strike, but Ivan may have other ideas for the Backfires. And sir, that leads to the North Atlantic.

“CAVALRY, you mean,” VP Bush observed.

The admiral nodded. “Yes, Mr. Vice-President. The convoys have been under submarine attack, and have lost a few ships, but the big threat is the Backfires. If Ivan wants to stop the convoys, they need to use the bombers, and it has to be today. They've flown a couple of regimental strikes, but if they want to really damage the convoys, they need to go all-out. And if they want to do this, it has to be today. Strike Fleet is ready to help out, and they'll cull out some of the Backfires.”

CIA Director Casey nodded. “Mr. President, we agree with that assessment. We've also got indications that there's been some arguing back-and- forth between Northern Fleet and Moscow. Northern Fleet wants to attack Strike Fleet Atlantic, while Moscow wants the convoys. Moscow, as usual, has won out.”

“How soon until they offload the equipment?” Dr. Condi Rice asked.

“They should be finished by overnight on 13-14th , if all goes well,” SECDEF replied. “A day, maybe two, to get to the front, and XI Corps is in the field.”

Rice and the others nodded at that.

“All right, thank you, Admiral,” POTUS said. “Let's hear from SACEUR.”

A video screen came to life, and General Bernard Rogers, Supreme Allied Commander Europe, came on. “Mr. President,” he said respectfully.

“General,” Reagan said. “Let's have it.”

“Mr. President, everyone. The fate of the free world will be decided within the next five to seven days. Our ground forces in the Central Front are holding, but just. I need XI Corps, but the Soviets will not wait. They're preparing another offensive, and this may the their final one. My J-2 tells me that they're preparing to move the Beylorussian Tank Army Group, that 5th Guards and 7th Guards Tank Armies, and before they do, they'll mount a major attack to pave the way. The Soviets are preparing to move the 4th Guards Tank Army, with the 1st Unified Corps from Poland and there's two possible axes of attack. The first is at the seam of the Dutch and II British Corps, but that's unlikely as they'd have a long road march and be exposed to air attack. Which leads to the second location, the corps boundary between I British and I Belgian Corps. That's my bet, as well as the bet of my staff. They'll use 20th Guards Army to punch a hole, then feed 4th GTA and the Unified Corps into the attack. The 4th GTA heads for the North Sea Coast and rolls up NORTHAG, while 1st Unified Corps heads for the Ruhr. Then they pour in the Tank Army Group, and one Tank Army heads for the Channel Ports, while another rolls down the Rhine, rolling up CENTAG. They also push 1st GTA out of 2nd Western Front and 8th GTA from Central Front, and they all meet up somewhere near Frankfurt or Mainz. It will be what the Germans used to call Kesselschlacht, or "Cauldron battle." Sir, if they get 4th Guards Tank Army through, I'll have to ask for nuclear release.”

“General,” Admiral Poindexter said. “How do you know this is what they have in mind?”

“Because, Admiral, it's what I'd do if I was in Marshal Orgakov's place,” said General Rogers.

Heads nodded grimly. The alternative to nuclear release was asking for terms from the Soviets, and no one wanted to contemplate that, either, “Very well, General,” POTUS said. “How do you plan to stop it?”

“Mr. President, My air people have two strikes in the planning stage. One is a strike against the main East-West rail lines in Poland. Poznan and Kolo are the target bridges and rail yards. We'll need refueling in Sweden both coming and going, along with transit and safe haven for damaged birds, but my air commanders tell me we can do it.”

“General,” Reagan nodded, “I'll talk with Prime Minister Thatcher, President Mitterand, and the Swedish Ambassador here. We'll get it all done for you.”

“Thank you, Mr. President. Now, for the sledgehammer: I will release the B-52s at Lajes, and hit 4th Guards Tank Army as they're moving in for the attack. There are forty-five B-52s at Lajes, and I intend to use every one of them,” Rogers said. “We have to time this right, and won't get a second chance.”

Secretary Weinberger looked at the monitor. “What about III Corps?”

“Mr. Secretary,” Rogers said. “Orgakov will have 1st Western Front mount some diversionary attacks, designed to force us to commit III Corps elements to help shore up NORTHAG. He's no fool, and they will have thought this out.”

“All right, General,” POTUS said. “Do what you have to do, short of nuclear release or asking for terms. We'll get CAVALRY through for you. And you'll have the tools to finish the job.”

“Yes, Mr. President, and thank you,” SACEUR nodded on the monitor.

“You're welcome. Now, we'll get out of your hair, as you have a war to fight. Good luck, and may God be with you and your command.”

“Mr. President,” Rogers said, then the monitor went blank.

POTUS surveyed the room. “All right, is there anything else?”

“Sir,” SECDEF said. “CINC-SAC is still asking for an airborne alert.”

The President looked at his CIA Director. “Any signs of Soviet Strategic Forces on alert?”

“No, Mr. President,” Casey replied. “None at all.”

“Then SAC stays as they are, Mr. Secretary,” Reagan told Weinberger.

“Yes, Mr. President,” SECDEF replied. And he knew that CINC-SAC wouldn't be happy.

The President surveyed the room again. “Any other business?” Heads shook no. “Very well, we'll meet again at 5:00 PM. Thank you, everyone.”

As people got up to leave, Reagan turned to his Secretary of State. “George, Get in touch with the Swedish Ambassador, inform him that I'd like to see him in the Oval Office this afternoon. And please start putting the screws on Mr. Palme. ”

“Yes, Mr. President. I'll get things going,”

“Good. Because SACEUR is counting on this.”

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The fact the shuttle landed with that much damage surprises me. I'm just wondering why the NASA director is resigning. It was a must launch wartime mission.

Or as Poohbah says, "Green sheet must ride."

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I agree. It's wartime risks have to be taken. Regan should refuse to accept the NASA Administrator's resignation IMVHO.

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I also think the blame game should not have been played. It is war, ffs. People tend to die and stuff gets destroyed.

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I don't recall what the NASA director has done in the past. If he was rabidly anti-war, then accepting his resignation is the way to go to get rid of him.

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The fact the shuttle landed with that much damage surprises me. I'm just wondering why the NASA director is resigning. It was a must launch wartime mission.

Or as Poohbah says, "Green sheet must ride."


Green sheet must ride, definitely. But perhaps the NASA administrator has lost confidence in himself.

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The fact the shuttle landed with that much damage surprises me. I'm just wondering why the NASA director is resigning. It was a must launch wartime mission.

Or as Poohbah says, "Green sheet must ride."



Green sheet must ride, definitely. But perhaps the NASA administrator has lost confidence in himself.


Then he should leave now. If he can't make decisions in a timely manner, that's worse case.

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