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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:31 pm 
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I was talking to my cousin about his step grandson in the army. He is a lieutenant in the Army. He just passed his rifle requalification. He was concerned that a shortage of ammunition prevented him from practicing on the firing range. When my cousin visited his step grandson, he was appalled at the poor condition of the buildings and vehicles. We have the money for a multi billion dollar cost overrun on the F35 but no money for training ammo. .Could this be true?


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Probably. Routine stuff gets neglected all the time. When we went through basic rifle qualification ( on the Charleville Musket) we had very little practice firing. A day or two of instruction, a day of training firing, and fire for record.

Be sure to tell your cousin, that when he gets to his unit, to listen to his platoon sergeant, and not take his lofty rank too seriously. No one else will.

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Probably. Routine stuff gets neglected all the time. When we went through basic rifle qualification ( on the Charleville Musket) we had very little practice firing. A day or two of instruction, a day of training firing, and fire for record.

Be sure to tell your cousin, that when he gets to his unit, to listen to his platoon sergeant, and not take his lofty rank too seriously. No one else will.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q-hLyUZS9E :mrgreen:

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Charleville? Luxury! With that lovely brass muzzle cap to polish and your lockable bayonets...

When I did basic, we were only allowed long land pattern muskets, and only five barrel pins for the whole platoon...

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Craiglxviii wrote:
When I did basic, we were only allowed long land pattern muskets, and only five barrel pins for the whole platoon...

We would dream of land pattern firelocks! We had to use hand-gonnes and set light to our nose-hair to fire them. And we were grateful for them.

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Francis Urquhart wrote:
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When I did basic, we were only allowed long land pattern muskets, and only five barrel pins for the whole platoon...

We would dream of land pattern firelocks! We had to use hand-gonnes and set light to our nose-hair to fire them. And we were grateful for them.

What are these gonnes of which you speak. We only had heavy crossbows, requiring both hands and a foot to load. And we were grateful if we didn't get trampled by our own knights!

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Johnnie Lyle wrote:
Francis Urquhart wrote:
Craiglxviii wrote:
When I did basic, we were only allowed long land pattern muskets, and only five barrel pins for the whole platoon...

We would dream of land pattern firelocks! We had to use hand-gonnes and set light to our nose-hair to fire them. And we were grateful for them.

What are these gonnes of which you speak. We only had heavy crossbows, requiring both hands and a foot to load. And we were grateful if we didn't get trampled by our own knights!


What is "heavy crossbow?"

In my day, we have rocks. Rock good enough for grandfather, good enough for father, good enough for me, why for we need "heavy crossbows" or "gonnes?"

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Francis Urquhart wrote:
Craiglxviii wrote:
When I did basic, we were only allowed long land pattern muskets, and only five barrel pins for the whole platoon...

We would dream of land pattern firelocks! We had to use hand-gonnes and set light to our nose-hair to fire them. And we were grateful for them.


So you had nose hair..? Luxury! In my day we were required to give it all up for mattress stuffings. But we never complained.

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Craiglxviii wrote:
Francis Urquhart wrote:
Craiglxviii wrote:
When I did basic, we were only allowed long land pattern muskets, and only five barrel pins for the whole platoon...

We would dream of land pattern firelocks! We had to use hand-gonnes and set light to our nose-hair to fire them. And we were grateful for them.


So you had nose hair..? Luxury! In my day we were required to give it all up for mattress stuffings. But we never complained.

Nose hair mattresses? HA! In my day, we stuffed our mattresses with rusty nails and shards of broken glass, if we were lucky!

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HA! We only dreamed about stuffing our mattresses with rocks. They hadn't been invented yet! We had to make do with stardust. And we were happy about it!

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HA! We only dreamed about stuffing our mattresses with rocks. They hadn't been invented yet! We had to make do with stardust. And we were happy about it!


Oooooh look at him with his fancy-Dan stardust. We were allowed- allowed, mind- to grovel for primordial gluons... and we always smiled.

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*grumble*

stupid young'uns talking about their big bang and all the stuff that happens when you make a hot dense state cool and diffuse.


"Hey, you kids, GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!"


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Belushi TD wrote:
*grumble*

stupid young'uns talking about their big bang and all the stuff that happens when you make a hot dense state cool and diffuse.


"Hey, you kids, GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!"


Belushi TD


At least you had hot & dense... when we started off energy hadn't been invented. We had to make do without existence... you young 'uns don't know you're born I tell you.

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Craiglxviii wrote:
Belushi TD wrote:
*grumble*

stupid young'uns talking about their big bang and all the stuff that happens when you make a hot dense state cool and diffuse.


"Hey, you kids, GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!"


Belushi TD


At least you had hot & dense... when we started off energy hadn't been invented. We had to make do without existence... you young 'uns don't know you're born I tell you.


"Make do without existence"? . . . you were lucky . . . we 'ad no such thing as existence to do without, we were lucky if we were allowed to do without the merest thought considering the possibility of crossing our minds.

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Andy L wrote:
Craiglxviii wrote:
Belushi TD wrote:
*grumble*

stupid young'uns talking about their big bang and all the stuff that happens when you make a hot dense state cool and diffuse.


"Hey, you kids, GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!"


Belushi TD


At least you had hot & dense... when we started off energy hadn't been invented. We had to make do without existence... you young 'uns don't know you're born I tell you.


"Make do without existence"? . . . you were lucky . . . we 'ad no such thing as existence to do without, we were lucky if we were allowed to do without the merest thought considering the possibility of crossing our minds.


You had minds did you?

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You had minds did you?


Oh aye, existential ones, mind . . . none of that 'real' la-de-da modern kids-stuff nonsense.

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