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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:35 pm 
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The P&CA forum has now been made so that only registered members can access it. This means everybody has to log in if they wish to see it.

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Well, guess I won't be checking it out on my phone while on the crapper anymore.

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Sorry about that . . . . . . . Would a new crapper help?

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Do I get a fancy Toto bidet seat?

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Jeremy wrote:
Do I get a fancy Toto bidet seat?

No, this is what you get for asking. Land not included.
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KDahm wrote:
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Do I get a fancy Toto bidet seat?

No, this is what you get for asking. Land not included.
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They have field latrines like that at the Philmont Scout Ranch in New Mexico. They have two types, those, and side by side. They are often placed at scenic lookouts. The side by side ones were nicknamed "Pilot and Copilot." The back to back ones, like shown, were "Pilot and Bombardier." Leave it to Scouts and military folks to come up with nicknames.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:28 pm 
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The first thing I thought of when seeing his post was Philmont.

So when I was looking for an image to grab, my google search was "Philmont crapper".

Well done, Edge!

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edgeplay_cgo wrote:
They are often placed at scenic lookouts.

Why have I now got a mental picture of somebody trying to use one of those things and being surrounded by Japanese tourists taking photographs

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edgeplay_cgo wrote:
KDahm wrote:
Jeremy wrote:
Do I get a fancy Toto bidet seat?

No, this is what you get for asking. Land not included.
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They have field latrines like that at the Philmont Scout Ranch in New Mexico. They have two types, those, and side by side. They are often placed at scenic lookouts. The side by side ones were nicknamed "Pilot and Copilot." The back to back ones, like shown, were "Pilot and Bombardier." Leave it to Scouts and military folks to come up with nicknames.

I was just about to reply to that picture with "Pilot to Bombardier".

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edgeplay_cgo wrote:
They are often placed at scenic lookouts.

Why have I now got a mental picture of somebody trying to use one of those things and being surrounded by Japanese tourists taking photographs

They don't let the general public into Philmont. They do occasionally have Japanese scouts. They have a reputation for having fantastic gear, which they give away because it's too much trouble to take home after the trek. No reputation for bad behavior. But yes, I do know what you mean. At least Japanese Tourist Season is largely over in this part of the world. It's kind of annoying when the guests can't understand you.

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ByronC wrote:
Francis Urquhart wrote:
edgeplay_cgo wrote:
They are often placed at scenic lookouts.

Why have I now got a mental picture of somebody trying to use one of those things and being surrounded by Japanese tourists taking photographs

They don't let the general public into Philmont. They do occasionally have Japanese scouts. They have a reputation for having fantastic gear, which they give away because it's too much trouble to take home after the trek. No reputation for bad behavior. But yes, I do know what you mean. At least Japanese Tourist Season is largely over in this part of the world. It's kind of annoying when the guests can't understand you.



Philmont's trail management is terrific. There are usually on the order of 1,000 Scouts on the trail, but it seems as if you have the place to yourself. You may encounter a couple of crews going the other way on the trail, but other than that, and the evening campsites, where several crews may be aggregated. you never see anyone. The Ranch is about 165,000 acres, half of which is mountains, and the other half is a working cattle ranch that supports the place. The land was donated by Phillips of Phillips Oil.

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edgeplay_cgo wrote:
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They don't let the general public into Philmont. They do occasionally have Japanese scouts. They have a reputation for having fantastic gear, which they give away because it's too much trouble to take home after the trek. No reputation for bad behavior. But yes, I do know what you mean. At least Japanese Tourist Season is largely over in this part of the world. It's kind of annoying when the guests can't understand you.



Philmont's trail management is terrific. There are usually on the order of 1,000 Scouts on the trail, but it seems as if you have the place to yourself. You may encounter a couple of crews going the other way on the trail, but other than that, and the evening campsites, where several crews may be aggregated. you never see anyone. The Ranch is about 165,000 acres, half of which is mountains, and the other half is a working cattle ranch that supports the place. The land was donated by Phillips of Phillips Oil.

All of this is very true, although I think the number on the trail at any given time is more like 3,000. (Which just makes their work more impressive.) It's my second-favorite place on Earth, behind the battleship. And not very far behind, either.

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There are 35 itineraries, with 40 crews starting each day on an itinerary. The crew size is 7 to 12, with each itinerary taking 12 days. In addition, there are 8 crews on 7 day itineraries starting each weekend. Therefore, there are actually around 5,000 people on the trail at any given time in Philmont.

The number of itineraries is up from 24 when I went, but there were 2 crews starting on each in itinerary each day. The crew slots fill up every year such that a lottery system has been in place for decades. The lottery is in the December 18 months before the trek.

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