Dearborn vs. Malmö
Posted on February 6, 2017 by Baron Bodissey
A reader named MJ sent us an email this morning with some questions and a request for a discussion about Dearborn and Malmö.
Dearborn is a suburb of Detroit, Michigan, and one of the most thoroughly Islamized municipalities in the USA.
Malmö is the second-largest city in Sweden, and lies just across the Öresund from Copenhagen in the province of Skåne. Malmö, too, is heavily Islamized, and is currently experiencing a crime wave like none ever seen before in Sweden — murders, assaults, rapes, bombings, carbecues, robberies, and God knows what else.
I’ll offer my own take on the differences between the two cities, but first the questions from MJ:
I am wondering if you could start a thread asking the GoV community to explain the differences between Dearborn and Malmö. I was asked this question and did not have a good answer.
I am turning to you and your community because I am unaware of any other sources that might be interested in getting the facts straight on a sensitive question like this.
Dearborn: Population 95,000; roughly 20%-25% Muslim
Malmö: Population 350,000; about 20%-25% Muslim
Despite some demographic similarities, the news reports of Muslim criminal activity in Malmö appear far worse than what we hear from Dearborn. Why?
Perhaps the media are biased:
Is the media coverage the same?
Is Dearborn (or parts thereof) a no-go zone like Malmö?
Do Dearborn residents through molotov cocktails, rocks, etc., at police and fire services?
What are the real statistics?
Maybe there are demographic differences:
Do the national origins of the Muslims differ? How?
Do the socio-economic status of Muslims in the two cities differ?
Were recent Muslim immigrants better screened in the U.S. compared to Sweden?
Maybe there are substantive policy differences:
Does the U.S. have a better model for assimilation than Sweden? How, exactly?
More aggressive policing/intelligence in the U.S.?
Thanks in advance!
Off the top of my head, these are some of the differences between the two cities:
1. Muslim immigrants to Dearborn have been mostly Arabs. In contrast, Malmö is home to large contingents of Somalis and Afghans. Other ethnicities include Eritreans, Kosovars, Iraqis, and Syrians. So there are Arabs in the city, but they are not the dominant group.
2. Until relatively recently, no Muslim immigrant would have arrived in Dearborn with the expectation of living the good life on welfare. We didn’t offer that option, so the Arab arrivals tended to get jobs or become entrepreneurs. Decades ago, if I’m not mistaken, there were substantial numbers of Arabs working in the auto factories. Those factories are mostly gone, so I don’t know what most of them do nowadays. In contrast, immigrants to Malmö largely depend on the generous welfare benefits provided by the Swedish government. The latest statistics I’ve seen indicate that the vast majority of “persons with a migration background” in Malmö are unemployed — I believe the figure was 86%. And most of those are essentially unemployable in Sweden.
3. Laws against “hate speech” in Sweden are more draconian than those in the USA, so open and frank discussion about the issues in Malmö is fraught with difficulty. We have to tread carefully here, too — after all, David Wood was arrested in Dearborn for handing out Christian pamphlets on the street. His case was thrown out, and he won his lawsuit, but the chilling effect on free speech is still present.
4. Policing is indeed more rigorous in the USA. Police in Sweden are usually unarmed, and operate under PC constraints far worse than anything American cops have to deal with. That may explain the lower crime rate in Dearborn; but then again, the fact that the city is mainly Arab, rather than Somali/Afghan, may have something to do with it. “Little Mogadishu” in Minneapolis is probably going to give Malmö a run for its money in another five or ten years.
I’ve never heard of any no-go zones in Dearborn, but openly Christian Americans have to be careful there, as was shown in past years by incidents during the Arab-American festival.
That’s all I can think of without doing additional research. Readers are welcome to add their own compare-and-contrast items in the comments.
A final note: Accurate statistics about the ethnic composition of Swedish cities are increasingly hard to come by. Nevertheless, I think the latest estimates of the Muslim population in Malmö put the number at something very close to 50%.
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6 thoughts on “Dearborn vs. Malmö”
garyfouse on February 6, 2017 at 4:57 pm said:
I’ve been following Malmo for several years now. The Jewish population, many of whom are descended from those who were smuggled into Malmo from Denmark during the German occupation, are leaving in droves thanks to the harassment suffered at the hands of the Muslim residents, who, when not harassing Jews, are rioting in the streets and burning cars. As to the plight of the Jews, the ex-mayor, an anti-semite named Ilmar Reepalu, told the Jews if they were not happy they could leave. He was made at the Jewish community for not bashing Israel.
Malmo is arguably the anti-Jewish city in Europe. The Swedes should be ashamed for allowing their Jews to be treated in this manner.
Dymphna on February 6, 2017 at 7:53 pm said:
Your comment brings back memories of learning and writing about the situation in Malmo when we first began GoV. Here are a few points that stayed with me:
Back then, many years before the Norway massacre, Fjordman was calling attention to the particular problems Swedish women, especially residents of Malmo, were facing. He had some statistics (this was way back, when he still maintained his own blog) about the rise in sexual assaults and Muslim men openly saying they chose to rape Swedish women because Muslim women were meant for marriage. Besides, Swedish women were so slutty they wouldn’t care, etc.
It was at Fj’s website where I first learned of blond Swedish women dyeing their hair as a way to maintain their freedom to go out of the house. (I’ll bet it’s a different -and worse – story now in many places).
I learned from him and from others that the sudden uptick in the “suicide” rate for young Muslim women in Malmo was, in reality, more likely to be a family hit job in the name of their “honor”. Living in one of the high-rise apartments, it was an easy task to throw a girl from the balconies.
I can’t recall the mayor’s name (oh, I just saw your mention of it), but I do remember that his remarks were often openly anti-Semitic – e.g., telling Jews who complained they should move to Israel. He and the town poobahs denied a synagogue’s application to build bomb prevention structures in front of its doors. The congregation was afraid of some jihadi driving through the doors one day with a truck bomb.
Their fears were reasonable as they had been warned against wearing in public any talisman that identified them as Jewish. If they could somehow be id’d as Jews, then public attacks were their fault and the police would do nothing.
As things worsened, the membership of the synagogue dropped, especially for families with young children. More and more of the monies collected went into providing security for the building.
I don’t remember the details of this story either, but can recall my shock on learning of two young Malmo Jewish men who’d decided to leave home to join the Israeli military forces. They said they felt safer doing that than they did just waiting to be picked off by Muslims in their own city.
As for Dearborn, it made headlines when an Arab Christian pastor tried to distribute leaflets and was stopped from doing so. Dearborn then passed an unconstitutional law making such things illegal.
Good account here:
There’s a notice on all the archived pages saying the DFP has suspended publication while it searches for a new publisher. Given the demographics in that town, it’s amazing they ever got off the ground. Look at the editorial staff, here:
Anyway, I remember Dearborn as being part of my learning curve re civilizational jihad. When I searched via Google back then for plastic surgeons doing hymenoplasty procedures in Dearborn, I got A LOT of hits. [I use Duck Duck Go these days so the search wouldn’t have nearly as many hits]
What was intriguing was the nature of the doctors’ ads. They could “restore” virginity during a prospective bride’s lunch hour but she would have to refrain from any “exercise” for several weeks before the wedding. That’s a lucrative field in Dearborn…just look up Dr. Haddad (I think that was his name).
BTW, I did do a Duck Duck Go search for ‘fun’ just now and very near the top was a long ad from a clinic in Belgium…
That wouldn’t have come up ten years ago when I did my first search for hymen repair in Dearborn. No doubt there are now enough wealthy Arab women in Dearborn who’d really enjoy a cultural tour in Europe.
Sick. Sick and very sad…how cynical Islam makes its adherents.
Daniel H on February 6, 2017 at 5:16 pm said:
An important difference is that in the US local criminal justice authorities come down hard on criminal behavior. Homicide, Rape, battery, arson, can get you a decades long prison sentence in Michigan and everywhere else. Even in liberal states and enclaves such as Boston, New York City, San Francisco, prosecutors and judges are quite severe. Extenuating excuses are wooshed right out of the court room. Makes for a huge difference in how Muslim miscreants behave.
Mongoose on February 6, 2017 at 10:05 pm said:
There are few if any Americans in Dearborne, Mi., the street signs are in arabic, and the police let them police themselves and freely assault the Christians who went to their islamic fair.
They do not assimilate, they self segregate and when numbers permit subjugate.
The street signs suddenly went from English to Arabic. There wasn’t a single English word on any shop or any street sign. And in fact, these little yellow signs were posted all along the edges. Jeremy said to me, ‘this is it. We don’t go past this line.’ And I said to Jeremy, ‘what do you mean? You guys are Detroit Metro. You’re the SWAT team. You can go anywhere you want. What if you get a call over there?’ He said ‘this is it, it’s hazardous for our team if we go past this line.’
Raduit on February 6, 2017 at 6:05 pm said:
Copied this from another site:
“Below two percent Muslims are well-behaved citizens and cause little apparent trouble for the host society.
At two percent and three percent Muslims begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.
From five percent on Muslims exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They push for the introduction of halal (“clean” by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves—along with threats for failure to comply (United States, Switzerland, Sweden). At this point, Muslims work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, or Islamic law. (England, Netherlands, Philippines).
When Muslims reach 10 percent of the population, they increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris—car burning). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam, Denmark—Mohammed cartoons, murder of Theo van Gogh). ”
Currently, the US: 1%.
Sweden was 5% six years ago (Wiki). Not unreasonable to think that has doubled since because of the massive migration wave, as well as new births. So, 10%. Bingo.
moray watson on February 6, 2017 at 6:46 pm said:
The biggest difference is the Second Amendment.
I am Charlie