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Now, this is the thread for the main narrative, but it will also contain certain fact files and and so on, as I don't want to clutter up the page. I will post the stuff chapter by chapter. However, since the chapters itself are relatively short, and my writing has very much improved since I started it, the quality will somewhat bad in the beginning. This is also partly due to my old beta-reader dissappearing off the face of the earth for some reason I still haven't worked out. Dodge, if you are out there, please get in touch, will you? Also, the chapter pic appears only once, and yes, the writing on it doesn't fit. Back when I started this it was just UK, but it chose to have a mind of its own.


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Chapter I

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London

September 3rd, 1938



The heavy clouds on the sky over inner London and the rain pouring down lead the casual observer to believe that this was just another day of stereotypical London Weather, but that was not true. Until a few hours ago the Auttumn of 1938 had been pleasantly warm. This however was of no Interest to the man that hurried past Nelsons Coloumn towards the one-way road that surrounded Trafalgar square. He motoined for a Taxicab and quickly glanced towards the grey Sky before getting in. Asked for his desired destination he simply said: "Foreign Office, and make it fast."

The black cab sped off. The man was lost in thought and could not see the headlines the Bewspaper Boys were selling with great success: "Hitler and Stalin to meet in Moscow", "German/Soviet Alliance?" and many more all saying essentially the same thing. He was a high official and the Foreign Office, and truth to be told, the Foreing Office had concentrated all of its efforts on deciphering this puzzling and potentiall dangerous developement ever since Hitler had first approached Stalin about it last spring. The Analysts at Century House and at the Foreign Office had been tried tehir best to make sense of Hitler seeking an Alliance with his ideological Nemesis. He sighed and lit himself a Cigarette when the cab pulled up in front of the Foreign Office Building at St. James Park where it formed a part of Whitehall. He climbed out and quickly dashed over to the entrance to avoid beeing totally soaked for his meeting. The Gaurds at the entrance knew him by sight, but still demanded to be shown his papers. He pulled them out of his pocket and handed them to the Guard with a slightly annoyed expression. The Guard handed them back to the man and moitoined him to pass the barrier that blocked the Entrance to the building.

He hurried through the halls, and broke into a run when he peeked at hsi wristwatch. The Foreign Secretary didn't like to be kept waiting, and the Prime Minister was with him. As much as he despised the man, calling him a "Spineless little Bastard" when in private he was the Prime Minister and deserved all of his best efforts at his work, as the man considered himself to be a professional Diplomat. Nevertheless he could think of better things to do on a Saturday afternoon and quietly calmed himself in preparation for his meeting with the PM Neville Chamberlain. Why Chamberlain had wanted the meeting to be held in the Foreign office was a mystery to him, as the Pm could have used the equally good facilities and No 10, but his was not to reason why and he therefore strode briskly towards the meeting room after quickly gulping donw a cup of lukewarm Tea in his own Office and to grab the Papers he would need. (AN: I would have drunken Coffee but he is British after all.) When he reached said meeting room just off the Foreign Secretarys Office he could already hear the Cabinet arguing over something, most likely the newest round of "Monroe Doctrine Statements" from the United States of American Peoples Republics or the toilet paper shortage in the Soviet Union, both beeing popular cafeteria jokes in Whitehall circles.

He shook his head to clear it and knocked tentatively on the door, not realy wanting to be on the recieving end of whatever argument had sprung uo in there. To his amazement he was quickly shown in by a minor stenographist and was promptly assessed by Chamberlain. "Ah, we've been waiting for you!" he turned back in his chair and said to the assembeled men: " I gather everyone knows Mr. Anthony Eden?" Eden, who had left the cabinet after the Anschluss of Austria inwardly chuckeled at the implied forgetfulness of his not exactly beloved former Cabinet colleagues and took his place at the table. Chamberlain swiftly moved to the next point on the Agenda, trying to give the impression of a deciciveness that he definitely lacked and said: "The next point on the Agenda is that blasted meeting Herr Hitler has with Stalin in Moscow. I have asked Anthony here to prepare what the Foreign Office has on the matter and to give us a full briefing. Lord Halifax, the current sitting Foreign Secretary was slightly annoyed at having been circumvented like this but said nothing, as he had spent most of the last month on a tour through Canada, inspecting the Border with Communist America that had been dubbed "The Iron Curtain" by a certain Conservative politician.

Canada, beeing effectively under siege on two sides ever since the Communist Revolution after the Assasination of President Hoover during his inaguration for his next Term was isolationist but nontheless kept issuing Statements about the "opression of the Canadian Workers by the British Empire" and was therefore seen as a threat. He was interrupted in his musings by Eden who cleared his throat and set on to speak. "What we have on the current Soviet/German Situation is rather limited I'm afraid. All that we know for sure from both the French and our own Diplomats in Moscow and Berlin is that Hitler and Stalin will meet in Moscow in a few weeks to discuss "mutual matters". The Embassy in Berlin also notes that the Germans have pretty much ceased their Anti-Soviet Propaganda Efforts and simply concentrate on their own domestic Communists as "troublemakers" and the like. We've also heard rumblings about new Warplans beeing drawn up by the German General Staff, but nothing solid so far, but Intelligence isn't my department anyways. In Russia the similar things are happening, only that Stalina is much more blunt, they already start praising the meeting and keep going on about how good for the Workers it would be and so on..." he paused to reshuffle his notes a bit and continued "Prime Minister, dear Cabinet Members, the Foreign Office concludes that the possibility of a Soviet/German Alliance, however unlikely and to be blunt insane it may seem to us is there. Anything further would fall into the area of Sir John Simon." Eden sat back down and leaned back in his chair, leaving the stage to Sir John Simon who was currently the head of MI6. "Gentlemen, Prime Minister," he started "Mr Eden has correctly pointed out that the possibility of said Alliance is there. Our sources within both Countries are limited, but what assets we have have told us that Stalin could be receptive, nothing more." He sat back down and the Prime Minister asked fro input from the military, but as it was expected the Army, Air Force and the Navy had even less to say than the MI6. In the end all that was known to the circles of Power in the United Kingdom was that two Ideological Enemies were suddenly best Friends and were on their way to form an Alliance that had the potential to rock the World to its core. Eden didn' really pay attention when the rest of the meeting shifted to domestic matters, among them the developement of a new Fighter Aircraft for the R.A.F. that Supermarine was currently working on, or the new Destroyers the Navy was developing. his mind was already preoccupied with the political and diplomatic ramifications of this "Unholy Alliance" would bring and made a mental note to have Lunch with his old Friend at the French Embassy at the earliest possible Moment. Swift and decicive Action was needed, the Allied Powers needed to make a combined and strong show of Force, preferably before any treaty was signed. Unfortunately Chamberlain was so afraid of a new War that he seemed to lack the willpower to do anything that might be seen as an agressive act, even if the Situation demanded it and it was more than likely that Britain would let this pass without comment or that Chamberlain would try to appease the two Dictators, making concessions in exchange for a shake and insecure peace, selling Britains soul to the proverbial Devil only to be rudely awakened a few years later. When the meeting finally ended Eden quickly walked back to his Office to finish some Paperwork, including a report about the State of the Country that a close accociate of his had asked for. He quickly greeted his secretary and said: "Could you be so kind and bring me another cup of tea dear?" before closing the door to his office. He quickly skimmed over one report, this one from the First Lord of the Admiralty: "Current OOB Homefleet/5th Battlesquadron: HMS Nelson, HMS Rodney, HMS Royal Oak, HMS Royal Souvereign, HMS Ramilies, HMS Hood, HMS Renown, HMS Repulse..." He put the report aside and started to work on his own. There was much to do.


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I've read this before, but it gets better every time. I must say I'm glad I can comment on it now.
Keep up the good work, trekchu.
Are you going to take the same opportunity that I am to clean up what you've written in the past?

Teeny tiny nitpick (sorry), it's HMS Royal Sovereign, not HMS Royal Souvereign.

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I've read this before, but it gets better every time. I must say I'm glad I can comment on it now.
Keep up the good work, trekchu.
Are you going to take the same opportunity that I am to clean up what you've written in the past?


A bit, here and there. The thing is I have very much other stuff to do, so it might be superficial.

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That's sort of what I'm doing, though I have decided to eliminate one sub-plot which didn't work too well.

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JNiemczyk1 wrote:
That's sort of what I'm doing, though I have decided to eliminate one sub-plot which didn't work too well.



Which one, if I may ask?

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Part of the spy one, I've dropped the MI5 scenes.

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The French Embassy, London

September 5th, 1938

The reception at the French Embassy was in already full swing when the French Ambassador tore Anthony Eden away from the heavily laden Buffet and lead him to a side Room where several other senior Officials were already talking serious Business. Stuffed with armchairs and desks in an Arrangement that reminded Eden of a British Gentlemen's club the room was used for the proverbial back room deal. In this room the Entente Cordiale had been fleshed out, here the last major Anglo-French Crisis had been solved, and now the room would once again play a pivotal and yet completely unappreciated role in history when the Ambassador led Eden towards <the seating group the farthest away from the door. When they sat down the Ambassador, Charles D'Agnicourt bluntly said:"So, my dear Antoine, what is the British Position on this mess?" Eden grunted undiplomatic before saying: "We have none. The PM wants to and I quote: 'Wait and see'. " D'agnicourt chuckled at seeing is old Friend so visibly displeased and answered: " That is the wrong approach of course. My Governmental wants to put of a strong show of force but we don't want to act without your backing." Eden leaned back into his chair and processed the implications of what the Ambassador had just said. "Why are you telling me this?" he asked after a few minutes "Why don't you go directly to the Prime Minister?" Eden had his suspicions as to why he had done it, but wanted to hear D'Agnicourts explanation before admitting anything. The man in question once more chuckled before saying: "We both know that Chamberlain is on his last ropes, especially after that fiasco with the "Reapproachement Campaign" in America. Well informed circles also happen to know that you are the Foreign Secretary in the shadow Government of a certain member of the opposition who is seen by my Government as being the most likely successor of the sitting Prime Minister." Eden was lost for words. He knew that the DGSE operated in the United Kingdom, but that they were THIS well informed...


Regaining his composure he simply said with a coolness in his tone that belied his racing thoughts:
"Well let us suppose this is true, this still doesn't answer my question. Why me?" "My political Analysts predict that if Chamberlain fails to give a decisive response to all this his Government will fall within the month, and we'd like to assure good relations with the new one." Eden leaned back, trying to form his next sentence carefully, wanting to admit nothing and yet everything at the same time. "My.... associates have come to the same conclusion, but we think that toppling the Government now might be risky, because if we appear weak the Axis Powers might try to take advantage of the Situation." Now it was D'Agnicourts turn to sit back thoughtfully. He called a waiter and asked him to bring two cups of Tea and used the time until they arrived to think about what to say next. When the Tea was on the Tables he took a sip, set the cup back down and said: "My Government has authorized me to tell you the following: We have good information that the Germans are preparing to topple the rightful Government of Czechoslovakia and replace it with a regime more receptive towards them. They also want to pressure them into joining the Axis." He handed Eden a Manila envelop who was taken aback. Normally the French were more than reluctant when it came to sharing information even with their Principal Ally, but if they gave up the Information this rely they had to be really scared, more scared than any French would ever admit even to his wife. He set to talk again. "My...Boss, if you can call him that, is worried as well. We think that if Czechoslovakia joins the Axis Poland is next, and then the Axis will stretch from your Border to the Soviet one, or even all the way to Vladivostok if they really do sign an Alliance treaty. I will bring him your Information though, he will find it most helpful." With these words Eden excused himself and left the Embassy to telephone his "Boss" at his country home. On his drive back to his own home he read through the file his friend had given him. Most of its contents were simply the usual "We cant say anything because we don't know anything"-10 page intelligence Estimates, but several pages caught his attention. It told the reader in incredible detail how the coup was to be staged and how it would work out, but not what Eden, what his "Associate" wanted to know the most: When. From what he gathered the French didn't know either, the only thing even close to a time frame was "within the next two months". Considering how well British Intelligence had handled such estimates in the past Eden took everything he read with a grain of salt and realized that it could happen tomorrow or even in the next five Minutes. He decided that not only his Associate but also the Prime Minister needed to see this and rerouted the Taxi to No. 10 Downing Street. Chamberlain might be a somewhat spineless man, but he still only had Britain's best interests in mind despite his false ways to pursue them, and when the cab pulled up in front of the black door of No. 10 Eden had already formulated a rough outline of what he was to say to the PM. He quickly tipped the driver and walked past the Guards. The innards of the building were bustling with activity, and so no one really paid attention to him until he reached the anteroom to the PM's office. He knew that he took a great risk here, as his main responsibility would have been to bring the information to the attention of the sitting Foreign Secretary, but Halifax would have advised Chamberlain that it would be best to do nothing, not even the diplomatic protest and the trade sanctions Eden had in mind. He also knew that he was no longer holding aforementioned post, but he also knew that Halifax and Chamberlain were appeasers, and would try to buy peace at all costs, and that went against everything Britain stood for, at least in his opinion. He knocked on the door and the secretary showed him in. Time to face the music.

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The plot thickens. I see you are not a fully paid up member of the 'Chamberlain-Halifax Fan Club' then. ;)
The French Embassy looks quite small, I'd have expected them to have something large an ostentatious.

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Naa. It gets worse for them. The picture is what I found after some digging.

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Chapter 3

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Duxford Secondary School

"... and we must therefore conclude that the assassin of President-Elect Hoover indeed acted alone. He was no Nazi Goon and as far as it has been pieced together no member of the CPUSA. We cannot be certain on this though, as our sources within the former United States have all but dried up." The Teacher turned around to look at the class. He bent down and supported his his upper body on the outer edges of his desk as he always did before launching into a new lecture. "However, it can be speculated that had the bullet missed, or had the attempt not taken place at all the United States might still be democratic." Turning back to the blackboard he wrote while saying: "Today we will start with a rough time line of the events that threw America into Communism. Remember boys, this is only a rough outline, but it will still form the base for the next test we will write here." The bell rang, signalling the break. While his students stormed out to play yet another one of their endless Football games* on the courtyard in front of the school or go to the top of the school to watch the planes on nearby R.A.F. Duxford he prepared the next hour. Bringing this to the class was important to him as he himself was an emigrated American, although his speech became more British by the day, but he still remembered his home and wondered if he were to see it again someday. When the students filed back into the room he quickly snapped out of his brooding. When everyone was seated again he stood back up, walked a few brisk paces until he stood amidst the first row of seats and said: "When the Americans entered the Great War they came in just in the nick of time. Our Forces and those of the French would have had a hard time resisting that last desperate Offensive in 1918. They took over a stretch of the Front, relieving the French Divisions there and sold us Guns and Ammunitions at very favourable rates. Despite descending into Isolationism the USA seemed to be on the fast track to become a Superpower that could rival Britain's Might both politically and on the seas.”

“Then, as we all know, the Depression hit the World, and the United States of America bore the brunt. In 1930 their GDP had fallen to about half of what it was in 1928, in the span of less than two years. However Hoover managed to slow the decline, yes even raise the GDP a bit again, so when he and Franklin D. Roosevelt both ran for President in 1932 it was a more than close thing. But in the end Hoover won. However this victory was overshadowed by two things that would essentially prove fatal to American Democracy: firstly, the Population quickly got wind of possible ballot rigging in Minnesota and West Virginia. Secondly...” he paused when a boy raised his hand. “Yes, Willard?” he said. Willard stood up. “What happened to Mr Roosevelt?” “We will get to that.” he took a deep breath and continued. “Secondly, aside from the turmoil the supposed Ballot Rigging caused within the electorate and especially within the working classes who had almost to a man voted for Roosevelt, Hoover promptly backed out on his election promises. As we have learned yesterday he promised reforms similar to those Roosevelt's program had proposed, and now many of those felt betrayed. However, and listen to this because it is important: The far right, from real Nazis to your ordinary Hillbilly whackjob felt equally annoyed about Hoover, but not that he had backed out on some of his promises, but rather that he hadn't backed out on all of them, or had even made them in the first place. The grumblings grew, and from what both the Police in the States could learn in the short time they had and what the Intelligence Services of this Country have tried to piece together ever since the Revolution, there were many groups who made sometimes genuine and sometimes half-backed threats on Hoovers live, and on that of Roosevelt. Hoover reacted quickly. He hated Roosevelt's guts and used this opportunity to get rid of him, sending him to England as the Ambassador at the court. FDR was reluctant at first, but nevertheless accepted, as the United States became more and more unstable and insecure for anyone that didn't agree with Hoovers liking. FDR left the country on November 3rd 1932, only days before all hell broke loose.” he paused briefly “During the Inauguration of Hoover several days later Security was supposed to be airtight, but nevertheless a disgruntled Farmer who had lost everything during the depression, including his mind rushed up to the Presidents Motorcade as he was arriving and pumped the President-Elect full of Bullets. The Secret Service killed him instantly. The FBI immediately blamed the Communists and initiated a harsh crackdown all over the country. Almost immediately riots broke out in every major city, especially in the Industrial Belt. As it is in the Anti-Riots Handbook the Army moved in. Heavy fighting broke out in Chicago, Detroit, New York and even in Los Angeles the National Guard traded shots with protesters. This however backfired drastically, because with every exchange of bullets the tension rose even more, and by February 1933 the United States were in a State of Civil War, with Urban Communist and Socialist Militias, along with the ordinary rioters on one side and Army and a few still loyal National Guard Units on the other.” he stopped and asked one of the boys to put up a map he provided. “As you can see here the fiercest fighting took place in the cities around the Great Lakes and, surprisingly enough in the outskirts of New York City.” He pointed to the red areas on the map. “It didn't take long though until the single groups tried to form a united Front against an increasingly violent U.S. Army that might be outnumbered but held the advantage in training and equipment, especially the single feared Armoured Division, the 'Old Ironsides'.” He then went on to explain everything, the Battle for Detroit where a Division of the Michigan National Guard had been destroyed between defections and brutal urban Combat, to the Hampton Roads Incidents where the Rebels managed to capture a Destroyer.

“By late 1933 most of the Eastern Seaboard, save for the coast of Virginia and the District of Columbia was in Rebel hands. They also controlled many of the rural regions, but the Government still controlled most of the Western Seaboard, Florida and most importantly the Capital itself. President Curtis however was prepared to leave the Capital as soon as rebel Militias closed in on DC, and by November 1933, almost a year after the war had begun the Stars and Stripes were pulled down from the Capitol by a raging mob. Curtis tried to evacuate the executive to Denver, Colorado, but was stopped by Rebel Roadblock manned by former members of the Maryland National Guard. The Rebels forced him at Gunpoint to declare to immediate surrender of all Army Units still fighting.” He paused and one of the Boys promptly raised his hand. “Yes, Frank?” The boy stood up and said: “Was that the end of the war? My Father always said it amazed him that the USA collapsed so fast.” “Well, the war might have been officially over, but the power struggle between the Communists and the Federalist Rebels started immediately. Not unlike the one the Soviet Union had post 1917, all that was complicated by the fact that US Forces still held in rural Areas and in the Mountains. The internal dissidents were quickly dealt with, but the fight against the holdout continued, and the last major one, that we know of, was not eliminated until early 1936. The Country then went into isolationism, and probably has no hostile intentions anywhere, a thought reinforced by the construction of the fence along the Canadian Border, the so-called Iron Curtain. The United Kingdom does have an Embassy in Washington, but other than that...."

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Another great update. If I may offer a suggestion in the '30s a teacher would refer to a 'Great Power' rather than 'Superpower'.
Is FDR still alive and well in the UK as an exile?

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Another great update. If I may offer a suggestion in the '30s a teacher would refer to a 'Great Power' rather than 'Superpower'.
Is FDR still alive and well in the UK as an exile?


I think I never specified this in the narrative, but FDR was/is US ambassador in the UK.

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I spotted that Hoover sent him to the UK as ambassador, but I was wondering what happened after the Revolution. He's no longer be US ambassador, but maybe a prominent figure amongst the US exiles?

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I spotted that Hoover sent him to the UK as ambassador, but I was wondering what happened after the Revolution. He's no longer be US ambassador, but maybe a prominent figure amongst the US exiles?


Yes, he's very much leading the European Section of the Exiles.

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About a decade too early for a school to be a comprehensive school, IIRC. A secondary modern could substitute


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About a decade too early for a school to be a comprehensive school, IIRC. A secondary modern could substitute



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September 6

Reichskanzlei, Berlin


The Führer of Germany was not happy. “BRÜCKNER!*” he screamed, calling for his adjutant and pacing through his spacious Office. When Brückner came to do his masters bidding he said: “Ja, mein Führer?**” Hitler faced his Adjutant and said: “Tell, me, my dear Brückner, has von Ribbentrop already sent the papers I requested?” Brückner shuffeled through the stack of papers in his arms and said with a regretful voice: “No, mein Führer. It seems that the Foreign Ministry has not sent anything today.” “Brückner, you may go now, but get me von ribbentrop on the horn. That overgrown salesman promised me these reports today.” Brückner nodded, clapped his heels together and briskly marched out of the room. Hitler sat back down and cast a long look at the massive globe that had been custom made for this very Office, pondering as to hwo he wanted the World to look like in 50 years. He wa interrupted in his broodings when one of the many phones on his desk rang. “Mein Führer, Minister von Ribbentrop is now avaible.” A quick series of clicking sounds later Hitler heard another voice. “Yes, mein Führer?” “Von Ribbentrop, where are these reports from our Embassy in Moscow?” his voice might have been eerily calm, but von Ribbentrop knew fully well that Adolf Hitler was boilign underneath the surface and scrambeled to prevent one of the Führers famous Temper tantrums. “Mein Führer, I personally sent a signal to Moscow only minutes ago asking for the very same reports, and I expect word about their whereabouts any minute now.” Hitler acknowledged von Ribbentrops efforts and hung up, only to be disturbed again, this time by the roar of a flight of He-111 Bombers, showing off their skills for the population of the Reichs Capital. He raised from his chair and closed the Window himself, something he usually had Brückner or someone else do. The years that had passed since the national awakening in 1933 had been filled with hard work, and many, many dissapointments, the biggest of which was Röhms attempted coup d'etat. It was then, just after he had personally arrested Röhm and his cohorts that he ahd revealed his plan for Germany's return to greatness to a astonished General Staff, only to be dissapointed yet again. Germany needed more time to prepare they had said, the French and British were still too strong they had said, the Wehrmacht and the Kriegsmarine couldn't possibly be ready before 1942 they had said. He would show them. He had instructed von Ribbentrop to seek an alliance that would show the General Staff, that would show the insufferable British and their French lapdogs. An Alliance with Soviet Russia. When he had first thought of this ingenious move back in 1936 he had himself dismissed it originally, as Stalin would never have accepted it, nit with the obvious Differences between the countries. But now the OKW's objections over the original plan that had revolved around a mere non-agression pact and the division of Poland sometime in 1939 had led him to formulate a new plan. Given Stalins predictably unlikely acceptance Germany and the Soviet Union would bond against their common enemies, with the SU simply there to fill the Gaps in terms of German Manpower and numbers, with the Wehrmacht doing most of the actual fighting.

Suddenly the phone rang again, this time it was von Ribbentrop personally. “Mein Führer, we have just received a radio message from Moscow, it seems that Stalin is at least willing to talk about the... 'proposal'.” “Good good. Von Ribbentrop. Now all we have to do is to convince Stalin that this is in best interests. Meet me in the Reichschancellory in an hour, and bring the head of your Soviet Department with you.” While he waited for von Ribbentrop and his henchman to arrive the Führer went on with the daily work, some intersting some not, among them an order that told Göring once and for all that the Aircraft on the experimental KMS Graf Zeppelin, Germany's first Aircraft Carrier belonged to the Navy. Göring had been lobbying for the ships Air Group to be placed under the direct control of the Luftwaffe, as he could not stand anyone else beside him having control over even one aspect of military aviation in the third Reich. Hitler sighed. Göring, despite having been a somewhat successful fighter Pilot during the Great War was nothing more than a useful Idiot, to be discarded as soon as he was no longer useful. Hitler once stood up and paced up and down the length of his Office. No matter how much benefits an alliance with the Soviets would bring for the Reich, the ideologies were too different for it to hold indefinitely, quite the contrary in fact. He had already advised Halder to develop a contingency plan dubbed “Unternehmen Barbarossa”, in case the Soviets had some 'funny ideas' before it was their turn after Europe was in the Reich's hands. Militarily the biggest advantage was the simple fact that such an alliance would provide a massive manpower boost and lessen the likelihood of another round of Trench Warfare in France, something that he wanted to avoid at all costs. But it also had a serious economical advantage, as the Soviets could definitely be coaxed into favourable trade deals with Germany, trading resources in exchange for Industrial technologies and maybe even outdated German military hardware.

Still if he added things up he mainly wanted the Soviets to bolster his own numbers and as cheap cannonfodder, as he was sure that the Soviet Ground tactics hadn't much improved since the end of their Civil War. Their Planes were a joke, but he knew that Quantity had a Quality all of its own, and Göring's precious Bf-109s would do the rest. If only now that damned von Ribbentrop would turn up and give him the Information he desired, so that he could finalize everything before the British or the French caught on. As if on cue the phone on his desk rang. It was his receptionist, informing that von Ribbentrop and the head of the Soviet Department in the foreign Ministry were waiting outside.

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Always nice to see old Adolf a bit angry. Some good plotting on his part there too; another good update. A bit worrying that the Nazi-Soviet pact may be more of an alliance here, however.

I hate to nitpick but back then the Me-109 was designated the Bf-109, though it was commonly known by the former name outside Germany.

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among them an order that told Göring once and for all that the Aircraft on the experimental KMS Graf Zeppelin, Germany's first Aircraft Carrier.


Something missing there? Has Göring been told that aircraft on the Graf Zeppelin (a very poor design, btw, it's well described in Stu's Winter Warriors) belong to the Kriegsmarine?

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JNiemczyk1 wrote:
Always nice to see old Adolf a bit angry. Some good plotting on his part there too; another good update. A bit worrying that the Nazi-Soviet pact may be more of an alliance here, however.

I hate to nitpick but back then the Me-109 was designated the Bf-109, though it was commonly known by the former name outside Germany.

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among them an order that told Göring once and for all that the Aircraft on the experimental KMS Graf Zeppelin, Germany's first Aircraft Carrier.


Something missing there? Has Göring been told that aircraft on the Graf Zeppelin (a very poor design, btw, it's well described in Stu's Winter Warriors) belong to the Kriegsmarine?


Blimey, I missed that when I went over it again. These are both things I intended to correct and will do so. Yes, it's the Bf-109, and yes Old Fatty has been told to sodd off regarding the Carrier. The Graf Zeppelin in the game is a lvl I carrier, so that description from Winter Warriors is accurate. I shouldnt post updates without having had my Coffee.

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Apparently the GF was so bad it would have had a permanent 4.5 degree list when fully loaded. She didn't compare well to contemporary CVs in other navies.

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